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What is the recorded latency when game mode isn’t enabled? I would appreciate it if you can share this info if it’s available :)

Could you please review the ZOWIE U2-DW? I tried to vote for it in “Vote for the next product we buy” but couldn’t find it.

Razer according to this post on reddit worked on a firmware to improve the sensor performance, and I noticed that the new firmware v1.11.01_r1 has been released.

If RTINGS got enough time to spare, I would appreciate a retesting of the sensor latency under the new firmware because the current Delay to start of movement at 4000Hz and 1000Hz seems slower than usual for Razer mice and many people have reported issues with tracking at polling rates below 8000Hz when doing micro adjustments.

Please consider reviewing these headphones, their price to performance ratio is unmatched and they are one of the few open back headphones with a decent bass.

Jun 01, 2024 11:36 AM By  Adam Scartozzi

We will definitely keep this in mind for future test benches. It is common that if/when we do test bench updates to address these types of issues, we do in fact go back and retest certain products. I have passed the message on to our Test Dev team. With the way our review is currently set up, Testers won’t be able to test all of those polling rates. We may, however, be able to test 2 of them instead of only showcasing the highest polling rate data. Would testing 1000Hz and the Max help you and others in finding the best product for your needs? Thank you for your feedback, it is greatly appreciated!

If I had to pick two I would definitely pick 2000Hz + the highest polling rate available (8000Hz or 4000Hz) and drop the 1000Hz test. The reasons behind this are:

1- The benefit of going from 1000Hz to 2000Hz is substantial. 2- The vast majority of game engines and systems have no issue what so ever running a mouse at 2000Hz. 3- The hit to battery life is minimal at 2000Hz. 4- It is easier to notice an improvement going beyond 2000Hz when the jump in polling rate is 4 times 2000Hz, according to Mark Rejhon (Chief Blur Buster). I recommend checking out this post.

Thank you for taking the time reading my humble feedback.

May 30, 2024 11:17 AM By  Adam Scartozzi

Hi there Kaled! I retried our unit, which is the Black color variant, with the wireless dongle on the same surface as the mouse. I was not able to notice any egregious dead zones with our unit, overall it felt smooth to use; I tried it at 1000hz 2000hz and 4000hz. I did, however, find a slight improvement when setting the “Smart Tracking” feature to “HIGH” in the “Calibration Tab” in Synapse. Would you be able to try playing with that setting on your unit, given yours is having the issue, and let us know if it improves at all? We are on firmware 1.10.5.0

Unfortunately I don’t have a unit, I have been reading about the issue on forums to inform myself before making a purchase, you can find people here, here, and here talk about it.

It looks like the issue only occurs when the mouse is used wirelessly while being set to a polling rate below 8Khz, especially when doing micro adjustments movements.

May 30, 2024 12:00 PM By  Adam Scartozzi

Hey there Kaled, thanks for your feedback! Are you asking for us to gather and provide the data for the Final Mouse UltralightX or all mice in general? We will keep this in mind for future testing, and supply the relevant supplemental data dependent on the type of mouse it is and what users would expect. Currently, the way our reviews are structured makes it hard to show the sensor latency at multiple polling rates. We are looking into the potential of making adjustments to our method, but this would not be any time soon. We do understand the importance of testing the products at different polling rates, and has become more important as of late. By testing a combination of polling rates, it will add a significant amount of time to testing the mice, so we need to look into it more. We are always looking at ways to improve our testing, to better help you find the best product for your needs.

Updating the UltralightX and other popular mice to include click latency and sensor latency at 1000Hz, 2000Hz, 4000Hz, and 8000Hz would be ideal.

I understand that this is time consuming so updating already reviewed mice might not be feasible, so going forward I suggest considering testing at those 4 polling rates because higher polling rate isn’t always appropriate for some users because it can cause problems related to battery life or compatibility with systems and game engines.

Thank you for your consideration.

If you could conduct the mice sensor latency test at 2000Hz that would be applicable to a lot of users, I find the trade off between the hit to battery performance (and ultimately the life span of the battery and the product) of higher Hz and what is actually perceived on today’s monitor technology very hard to stomach. And some mice have mediocre sensor performance at lower Hz despite performing well at 4K Hz or 8K Hz, I think this is important info to all the customers who will be using the mice at 2K Hz.

Some people are reporting here that the mouse has issues with micro adjustment when used wirelessly while being set to 4K Hz or below, could you please investigate?