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Mar 02, 2024 07:53 PM By Murenitu

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update…I just built a MixAmp Pro TR Gen3 (model: MA3P03) since before I used the motherboard itself, which in this case is an Asus formula Z490. I ask from absolute ignorance, and I don’t control anything about the MixAmp, could I improve the response or refine the response of the test on your website with this DAC? lowering the treble a little at 8khz? Or is there some type of profile that I could upload for these headphones to the astro command center?

Treble response can vary between units and also depends on your ear canal. You could hear a treble spike at a different frequency. My advice is to use a tone generator (you can search for “online tone generator”) in order to find any significant volume spikes and create a custom equalizer to improve the response. You can also use “Equalizer APO” to equalize your headphones on a Windows PC.

Mar 02, 2024 04:36 AM By Murenitu

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I just bought these headphones on Amazon and they replied €220. I feel a little strange about them and I don’t know if I should return them. I still have 4 days left. It is mainly for playing, which headphones would be better, I don’t care about the price with a range between €300 and €500. Is there one that is better for playing and has a microphone?

My only advice is this: if you are not sure whether you should keep the headphones, it’s probably better to return them. I once kept some headphones that I didn’t enjoy much, just because many people thought that model was great, and I really regretted it. If you are not confident about your headphones, try another model.

You can check RTINGS “Best gaming headsets” article and try one of these.

Such a good headphone ruined by Beyerdynamic’s infamous treble peak of death. +15 dB at 8.5 kHz is insane

Feb 20, 2024 05:48 PM By  Gregory Vodden

Hi Omelette, Thanks for reaching out to us. We haven’t investigated release latency differences between keystrokes held for short periods and long periods, but we’ve passed the suggestion on to our test development team, and it may be something we investigate in the future. To clarify the situation you’re experiencing, we measure latency using a USB analyzer, which intercepts the results from the keyboard alone— independent of the other elements in the total latency chain. We expect the reason you’re measuring above 100 ms over a Bluetooth connection is because that measurement represents the total end-to-end system latency, which includes the approximately 20 ms of Bluetooth latency from the keyboard in addition to the latency introduced by your CPU, GPU, and display, and other smaller elements. That being said, ~100 ms of total end-to-end latency is a plausible result when using a Bluetooth connection with the Keychron K8 Pro. We recommend using a wired connection or a wireless keyboard with 2.4 Ghz wireless connectivity for the best possible gaming performance. If you’re interested in learning more, we have a short article that details our keyboard latency test methodology here. Hopefully, that answers your question.

Thank you for your reply. I obtained many consistent measurements under 35 ms, so I guess it’s correct to assume that my whole system (CPU, GPU, display, etc.) introduces only about 15 ms of latency most of the time, as you can verify with the measurements corresponding to the G715 (with USB receiver) and the K8 Pro (with cable). Thus, I still experience over 70 ms of latency from the Bluetooth connection on short key presses and over 120 ms from releasing a key after a long press.

My interpretation of the extra latency after releasing a long press is that there’s some kind of slow buffer sending old packets, which nearly doubles the latency compared to short presses. Even using a cable results in higher latency for a release after a long press.

Feb 20, 2024 05:50 PM By  Gregory Vodden

Hi Omelette, Thanks for reaching out to us. We haven’t investigated release latency differences between keystrokes held for short periods and long periods, but we’ve passed the suggestion on to our test development team, and it may be something we investigate in the future. To clarify the situation you’re experiencing, we measure latency using a USB analyzer, which intercepts the results from the keyboard alone— independent of the other elements in the total latency chain. We expect the reason you’re measuring above 100 ms over a Bluetooth connection is because that measurement represents the total end-to-end system latency, which includes the approximately 20 ms of Bluetooth latency from the keyboard in addition to the latency introduced by your CPU, GPU, and display, and other smaller elements. That being said, ~100 ms of total end-to-end latency is a plausible result when using a Bluetooth connection with the Keychron K8 Pro. We recommend using a wired connection or a wireless keyboard with 2.4 Ghz wireless connectivity for the best possible gaming performance. If you’re interested in learning more, we have a short article that details our keyboard latency test methodology here.

Thank you for your reply. I obtained many consistent measurements under 35 ms, so I guess it’s correct to assume that my whole system (CPU, GPU, display, etc.) introduces only about 15 ms of latency most of the time, as you can verify with the measurements corresponding to the G715 (with USB receiver) and the K8 Pro (with cable). Thus, I still experience over 70 ms of latency from the Bluetooth connection on short key presses and over 130 ms from releasing a key after a long press.

My interpretation of the extra latency after releasing a long press is that there’s some kind of slow buffer sending old packets, which nearly doubles the latency compared to short presses. Even using a cable results in higher latency for a release after a long press.

I love this keyboard, except for the terrible Bluetooth latency. I’m perplexed by how RTINGS managed to measure a 20 ms latency when my measurements consistently exceed 100 ms. Quick key presses result in approximately an 80 ms delay, but if you hold a key down for a while before releasing it, the latency always surpasses 100 ms. This issue frequently arises both during typing (for example, when erasing text) and gaming (such as when pressing ‘W’ to move forward). I’ve made a recording to demonstrate the latency. You can view it here; all the information is provided in the description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d_AgkfgVm4

EDIT: I have just used a Logitech G715 for comparison purposes. The G715 is just better with bluetooth, and with the 2.4 GHz USB receiver is faster than the Keychron with cable:

Key short press (three measurements in milliseconds):

G715 bluetooth: 42- 38 - 38

K8 Pro bluetooth: 104 - 50 - 96

G715 2.4 GHz USB receiver: 21 - 25 - 29

K8 Pro cable: 25 - 25 - 29

Key release after a long press (three measurements in milliseconds):

G715 bluetooth: 117 - 104 - 104

K8 Pro bluetooth: 125 - 150 - 129

G715 2.4 GHz USB receiver: 29 - 33 - 33

K8 Pro cable: 33 - 29 - 38

This looks so bad that I really want to try it out. I’m actually surprised. Not only the treble, also the passive soundstage, the imaging, the harmonic distortion, the bass… This is hard to beat, specially at the price point (80€). And it has 4.5 out of 5 stars on Amazon. I really really want to try these headphones. Maybe I like them too.

May 12, 2022 04:24 AM By cinekolok

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Making videos and pictures Many people are using Eizo, NEC…

Yeah, they are widely used in professional environments. But if not enough people vote them, rtings will never review them. And since most of people here are “gamers” and not people who work with color management, is hard to reach enough votes.

Probably the only way is to ask the users in a specific “color management” or similar forum to vote for a concrete model to be reviewed.

I also care a lot about that feature. In fact, I’d never buy a monitor without a sRGB gamut mode.

If I were you I wouldn’t change the SHP9500. I owned the X2HR and the treble quality on these was quite bad. It seems the SHP9500 behaves much better on the treble. If you think the bass is too shy, you can easily boost it with an equalizer.

This would be great.

I always get mad reading rtings reviews… so much misinformation. “The AKG have a much more accurate and well-balanced sound profile than the Sony MDR-7506.”, but then you check the reviews and they’re actually quite similar and the Sony even has higher “Neutral Sound” score. I also think the AKG are more balanced, but how you can say “MUCH MORE ACCURATE”? And why do they say that but their score system contradicts their opinion?

It’s ridiculous. They try to be objective, but their subjective preferences are always very noticeable. As some users say, rtings is only useful to consult measurements, reviews and scores are often contradictory, and with a high percentage of subjectivity.

They have a huge love for the M50X and it always shows. It is also the same with Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser, although the measurements say one thing, they always approach it differently to suit their personal preferences. Maybe the Sennheiser have a better response overall, but the Beyerdynamics have a bit more bass. The perfect excuse for rtings to say that the Beyerdynamics are better.

“The M50x has […] in general a better frequency response than the HD600” HAHAHAHHAHAHA oh wow

I understand double posting is not encouraged, but I’d love to have an answer by the reviewers :^)

I also think 1920x1080 in a 27" monitor is ridiculously low. We are talking about 82 pixels per inch… RTINGS make nice reviews, but I don’t trust their scoring system, it makes no sense for me. In their “gaming” category, they think monitor size is more important than motion blur and refresh rate. Funny thing is they consider 24" monitors as “budget” and not wanted, when almost every professional competitive gaming monitor out there is 24" 🤷