I have an 8550 for a year now and couldn’t be happier with its performance. I would be interested in knowing what paper (brand, finish, weight) is used in testing of this printer, and what color/bw profiles are used during testing. Or do you use same paper for all printers?
Hey Grayslaker!
For document testing: for all our reviews, we use Staples copy paper, 8.5" x 11" (Letter size), 20 lb., 92 brightness.
For photos: we use the printer’s own brand photo paper. For Epson printers, we use Epson Photo Paper Glossy, 4" x 6", 52 lb., 92 brightness.
For the color profiles, for documents we use default settings, and for photos we simply change the print quality to High (or the equivalent).
Let us know if you have any other questions! 🙂
What picture profile was used to measure video dynamic range? This camera can do slog2 and HLG so I’m not sure why it performs worse than the ZV-1.
Hello ashsii,
It looks like we didn’t use the correct picture profile when testing this camera’s video dynamic range. The results should indeed be closer to the ZV-1’s.
The current video DR results were measured using the standard picture profile, it will be retested using S-Log3 as soon as possible.
Thank you for catching this and bringing it to our attention!
I think this review needs an update now that Lumix released firmware to increase the recording time.
Hello ashsii,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention! We’ll be updating the review as soon as possible to reflect the new recording time and other features from the latest firmware update.
We really appreciate your feedback. Wishing you a fantastic day!
Hi Gufka!
You’re right, the camera can reach 1/8000 with the electronic shutter.
The Fastest Shutter Speed test refers to the maximum shutter speed with mechanical shutter. To find more details on our tests, you can check the tooltip by hovering over the blue question mark next to a test result.
We appreciate your feedback and will consider how to make this clearer in the future. Thanks again for helping us improve!
Hi Marvelpaolo!
Thank you for bringing this to our attention! We’ll update the review shortly to correct this information.
We appreciate your help in making our reviews better! 🙂
Panasonic released firmware 3.0 a few months ago and some reviewers are claiming large improvements to AF tracking and image stabilization at shorter focal lengths. Any chance of an update to the testing?
Hey dqniel!
Thank you for pointing that out. We’re definitely interested in seeing how it affects the camera’s performances. We’ll make sure to retest it with the latest firmware as soon as we can and update our review accordingly.
Stay tuned, and thanks again for bringing this to our attention!
Hi, in the meantime i’ve noticed that the selected bit depth affects FPS in extended H, setting it to 12 bit gives higher FPS than setting it to 14 bit, so that might be where that discrepency comes from, but that should only affect RAW images, and the test says jpg
Hey IIMKGII,
Thank you for your patience while I looked into this.
Regarding the shooting speed, it’s quite possible that the camera can shoot at 12 fps. As you know, many variables can affect shooting speed, and different settings and conditions during testing could explain the discrepancy. Unfortunately, we no longer have the camera in our inventory to retest the shooting speed and update our test results.
As for the XQD card compatibility, you are correct. Our current methodology doesn’t list every compatible card. I appreciate you bringing this to our attention. I will relay your feedback to our R&D department, and we will add this to our list of suggested improvements for future test bench updates.
Thank you again for your valuable comments. If you have any other questions, comments, or feedback in the future, please don’t hesitate to reach out. We truly appreciate your insights and support.
Have this camera myself and when comparing it to a different model i noticed some of the infos are wrong.
I haven’t tested Silent Shooting Continuos, but i have tested High Speed Continuous myself and i got values between 12-13fps, so the 8fps mentioned here is wrong, maybe you guys set the camera to Continuos H instead of Continuos H (Extended). Second thing i noticed is that you write that the camera has a CFExpress Card Slot 1, not entirely correct, it takes in both CFExpress Type B and XQD Cards
Hey IIMKGII! Thank you for your detailed feedback! I appreciate you taking the time to share your observations. I’ll look into the discrepancies you’ve mentioned and get back to you with an update next week.
Very comprehensive review. I wonder if it can be updated to show the differences between R10 and R50 as a webcam. I think there is a difference ?Mentioning the differences between the next step down and next step up cameras (R50, R7) I find to be very useful info.
Hey AlexCam!
Thank you for taking the time to share your kind comments and feedback on our camera reviews! At this time, webcam capabilities are not a part of our active testing process, but you can find some info about it at the end of both the R10 and R50’s reviews, in the Inputs/Outputs section. You can also use the Side-by-Side Comparison tool and compare the R10 and R50 easily.
I’ll make sure to pass your comment along to our R&D team - if enough people are interested, we might consider adding it in our next Test Bench update.
Please feel free to reach out if you have any questions or other suggestions!
Testing update: We’re postponing the testing of this camera until early April. In the meantime, if you have any questions regarding the camera, or features you would like for us to test, let us know and we will do our best to provide the info! Thanks for your understanding and patience!
I’m shocked that the hit rate is lower than the old S5. The new autofocus system is being lauded as on-par with Sony, Nikon, and Canon with the S5 II, so I’m wondering what went wrong for the results to go backwards…
Hey dqniel!
Thanks for taking the time to share you thoughts with us, we were also expecting much better photo autofocus results from this camera.
We did notice great improvements in Panasonic’s detection and video AF system though, which shows with the improved video object and face tracking tests scores.
In photo, with the AF-C tracking test, you can see that the camera’s AF system is not able to focus fast enough to match the subject’s speed and sudden movements. The only frames in focus are the ones between the starting point until the jump and the ones the end when the subject slows down and stops moving. We had also tried different AF-C settings but none performed better.
Our Photo Continuous Autofocus test setup is quite challenging for camera’s AF systems, and results allows us to easily identify which camera could benefit from further improvements, like Panasonic’s new phase detection system in the S5 II.
I hope this clears things up a bit more for you. Rest assured, if Panasonic releases a firmware update affecting their AF system, we’ll go back and test it again!
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. You 100% correct.
I remeasured the depth of the camera, following our methodology (from lens cap to tip of the viewfinder) and the correct measurement should be 2.3in (5.9cm). It also now get a score of 6.7 in the portability section.
I went ahead and already launched the process for us to update the review, you should see the updated measurements and scores really soon.
Thank you again, we really appreciate user feedback like yours! 🙂
Hey there!
You are correct, the new printer test bench 1.0 included a complete revamp of our Color Accuracy test and this is why those 2 printers’ score don’t add up.
I went ahead and performed the Color Accuracy test following the new methodology with the HP ENVY Pro 6475, so you’d have truly comparable data.
The new Average Color dE is now 10.4 and it would get a score of 4.7 .
Hopefully this answer your question, let us know if you’d need any more info! 😊
Thanks for being patient as we looked into this for you.
Unfortunately, we don’t have a 6m long paper roll to test, but the biggest document we could print was a custom size of 21.5cm x 55.87cm.
As for AirPrint, the whole process was seamless and really easy. Simply put, the custom paper size I had selected appeared in the paper size menu on the phone, and I was able to send the document to print from through AirPrint without any issues. However, it might be worth mentioning that originally, it wasn’t working, but resetting the devices (network, printer, phone) resolved the issue. So, you should be good to go.
Hopefully this answer your question, let us know if we could do anything else to help! 🙂
Hey Grayslaker!
For document testing: for all our reviews, we use Staples copy paper, 8.5" x 11" (Letter size), 20 lb., 92 brightness.
For photos: we use the printer’s own brand photo paper. For Epson printers, we use Epson Photo Paper Glossy, 4" x 6", 52 lb., 92 brightness.
For the color profiles, for documents we use default settings, and for photos we simply change the print quality to High (or the equivalent).
Let us know if you have any other questions! 🙂
Hello ashsii,
It looks like we didn’t use the correct picture profile when testing this camera’s video dynamic range. The results should indeed be closer to the ZV-1’s. The current video DR results were measured using the standard picture profile, it will be retested using S-Log3 as soon as possible.
Thank you for catching this and bringing it to our attention!
Hey crypticcelery!
Thank you for bringing this to our attention! We’ll be updating the review soon to reflect the new app for this camera.
We appreciate your feedback—thanks again!
Hello ashsii,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention! We’ll be updating the review as soon as possible to reflect the new recording time and other features from the latest firmware update.
We really appreciate your feedback. Wishing you a fantastic day!
Hi Gufka!
You’re right, the camera can reach 1/8000 with the electronic shutter. The Fastest Shutter Speed test refers to the maximum shutter speed with mechanical shutter. To find more details on our tests, you can check the tooltip by hovering over the blue question mark next to a test result.
We appreciate your feedback and will consider how to make this clearer in the future. Thanks again for helping us improve!
Hi Marvelpaolo! Thank you for bringing this to our attention! We’ll update the review shortly to correct this information. We appreciate your help in making our reviews better! 🙂
Hey dqniel!
Thank you for pointing that out. We’re definitely interested in seeing how it affects the camera’s performances. We’ll make sure to retest it with the latest firmware as soon as we can and update our review accordingly.
Stay tuned, and thanks again for bringing this to our attention!
Hey IIMKGII,
Thank you for your patience while I looked into this.
Regarding the shooting speed, it’s quite possible that the camera can shoot at 12 fps. As you know, many variables can affect shooting speed, and different settings and conditions during testing could explain the discrepancy. Unfortunately, we no longer have the camera in our inventory to retest the shooting speed and update our test results.
As for the XQD card compatibility, you are correct. Our current methodology doesn’t list every compatible card. I appreciate you bringing this to our attention. I will relay your feedback to our R&D department, and we will add this to our list of suggested improvements for future test bench updates.
Thank you again for your valuable comments. If you have any other questions, comments, or feedback in the future, please don’t hesitate to reach out. We truly appreciate your insights and support.
Hey IIMKGII! Thank you for your detailed feedback! I appreciate you taking the time to share your observations. I’ll look into the discrepancies you’ve mentioned and get back to you with an update next week.
Hey AlexCam!
Thank you for taking the time to share your kind comments and feedback on our camera reviews! At this time, webcam capabilities are not a part of our active testing process, but you can find some info about it at the end of both the R10 and R50’s reviews, in the Inputs/Outputs section. You can also use the Side-by-Side Comparison tool and compare the R10 and R50 easily.
I’ll make sure to pass your comment along to our R&D team - if enough people are interested, we might consider adding it in our next Test Bench update.
Please feel free to reach out if you have any questions or other suggestions!
Testing update: We’re postponing the testing of this camera until early April. In the meantime, if you have any questions regarding the camera, or features you would like for us to test, let us know and we will do our best to provide the info! Thanks for your understanding and patience!
Hey dqniel! Thanks for taking the time to share you thoughts with us, we were also expecting much better photo autofocus results from this camera. We did notice great improvements in Panasonic’s detection and video AF system though, which shows with the improved video object and face tracking tests scores.
In photo, with the AF-C tracking test, you can see that the camera’s AF system is not able to focus fast enough to match the subject’s speed and sudden movements. The only frames in focus are the ones between the starting point until the jump and the ones the end when the subject slows down and stops moving. We had also tried different AF-C settings but none performed better. Our Photo Continuous Autofocus test setup is quite challenging for camera’s AF systems, and results allows us to easily identify which camera could benefit from further improvements, like Panasonic’s new phase detection system in the S5 II. I hope this clears things up a bit more for you. Rest assured, if Panasonic releases a firmware update affecting their AF system, we’ll go back and test it again!
Hey there!
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. You 100% correct. I remeasured the depth of the camera, following our methodology (from lens cap to tip of the viewfinder) and the correct measurement should be 2.3in (5.9cm). It also now get a score of 6.7 in the portability section. I went ahead and already launched the process for us to update the review, you should see the updated measurements and scores really soon.
Thank you again, we really appreciate user feedback like yours! 🙂
Hey there! You are correct, the new printer test bench 1.0 included a complete revamp of our Color Accuracy test and this is why those 2 printers’ score don’t add up. I went ahead and performed the Color Accuracy test following the new methodology with the HP ENVY Pro 6475, so you’d have truly comparable data. The new Average Color dE is now 10.4 and it would get a score of 4.7 . Hopefully this answer your question, let us know if you’d need any more info! 😊
Hey!
Thanks for being patient as we looked into this for you. Unfortunately, we don’t have a 6m long paper roll to test, but the biggest document we could print was a custom size of 21.5cm x 55.87cm.
As for AirPrint, the whole process was seamless and really easy. Simply put, the custom paper size I had selected appeared in the paper size menu on the phone, and I was able to send the document to print from through AirPrint without any issues. However, it might be worth mentioning that originally, it wasn’t working, but resetting the devices (network, printer, phone) resolved the issue. So, you should be good to go.
Hopefully this answer your question, let us know if we could do anything else to help! 🙂