Hi! There was a mistake in our settings page; it should have said Expert 2 for HDR settings. This has been fixed. As for the differences between the two settings, there are none, they both have the same default value. This is why you don’t see a difference when you choose one or the other. The expert color temperatures are for calibration purposes; basically you can set color temperature to expert 1, and then fully calibrate the settings of the TV, and then if you switch to expert 2 you could have a completely different set of calibrated settings. So you could have a set of color settings for accuracy on expert 1, and then on expert 2 you can have a set of settings geared towards pop. The expert settings also track the closest to our 6500k target, so they’re the most accurate color temperature settings even if you don’t calibrate anything further after selecting them. Hope this helps!
I see, very appreciate for for the explanation..thanks
Hello!
Any recommendation settings we have can be found in our review or our settings page for the TV.
Otherwise, most of this stuff comes down to personal preference, so it’s probably best to play around with the settings and see what you think looks best!
I see,
For low quality content smoothing on Sony tv ,
I used smooth gradation..
How about nosie reduction? Is it necessary I used noise reduction / digital noise reduction setting for low quality content smoothing?
Hi, thanks for update of tes bench 1.11, I think it’s great, and the score is better for matching the real experience., You guys really doing a great job ..thanks for the hard work..
We haven’t published our new Test Bench yet, this message was published once we finished some things internally. We still have to validate some stuff before publishing, but it should be available by the end of the week if all goes well!
It’s too early to say as there are lots of different components to a test bench update process. Once we have an update, we’ll do our best to let everyone know!
Hi all,
I just wanted to jump in here and say that we appreciate you sharing your thoughts and feedback with us.
This information has been brought up to our test development team and our display team has been discussing things internally. We’re going to further investigate this situation and we’re make sure to follow up with our results. We’ll highlight any changes or important findings on our end as well.
Hi there, i see that test bench 1.11 is on progress
When it will be update on the main page?
Thanks
Hi all,
I just wanted to jump in here and say that we appreciate you sharing your thoughts and feedback with us.
This information has been brought up to our test development team and our display team has been discussing things internally. We’re going to further investigate this situation and we’re make sure to follow up with our results. We’ll highlight any changes or important findings on our end as well.
Hi Dylan, thanks for reply, I will wait you’re further explanation about this, cause right now I’m 100% sure there’s no way q60b is better than X90K and that’s mean that rating result is no use at least for me to make buying decision
Same guy here different account my bad. Thank you for a quick answer! Most of the score breakdown has the X90K getting practically 7.6-8.1 or so on almost all except those 3, and even an 8.0 I believe on one of them. One is only a 5.0. Why do you think it performed so poorly specifically on that test, and is it anything to worry about?
For reference I have a 75” X900H, 65” NU8000, 55” B9 and NU7100, and have an 85” X90K being delivered on Saturday. I love the X900H (and B9. I really see no need to update my B9 as surprisingly I’ve only used it for less than 100 hours due to being in storage for 18 months and I just got it set up and it’s still quite bright imo and looks amazing and has gsync and hdmi 2.1)
Back to the x90k, so I should have no issues with the X90K? I’ve heard it’s quite bright and good for HDR.
Hey, just sharing Information, all the other reviewers from both website and YouTube mention that the brightness on X90K is a step up from X90J..so I don’t think it’s an issue in terms of brightness..
Thanks for reply Dylan, can rtings check out the Dolby vision issue between Sony tv and Samsung soundbar, cause some people experience that with Sony tv on the Dolby vision content the sound on Samsung soundbar don’t exist , thanks again
I think it’s a QC issue, it’s common for Budget brands at least for now, exp: Hisense has motion issues tested by rtings, personally I think rtings does a good job of giving us advice on what tv is best suited, but I did some additional searching on the best buy site, how the real experience of the tv owner is, i focus on 5 star rating and with that statistic with the same level of tv specs the result is budget brand never beat the big brand on cust experience rated
This is a bit tough because the Sony A80K OLED and the Sony X90K are different types of TVs, each with strengths and weaknesses. So, a big factor here is going to be your viewing environment. The A80K is better for dark-room viewing as it delivers deeper blacks, and it’s also the better choice for wide seating arrangements because it offers a wider viewing angle. If you prefer something for bright-room viewing, the X90K gets much brighter to counteract glare. If you don’t get that much light in the room though, then go for the A80K since it’s the better overall TV!
Thanks Dylan, I know OLED definitely better on picture quality, but my environment is a bright room, I guess X90K is more suitable for me as it’s a great tv overall, plus I get 10 inch more for more immersive experience..
Hey there! So I looked into this a bit, and using our internal history of that page I was able to confirm that the changes to the brightness numbers did happen during the 1.7 retest, which was published on August 24th, not on the 1.8 retest, which was posted on September 2nd. I checked on public website history sites, and found that there’s 1 snapshot from September 1st, before the 1.8 retest was posted, confirming that the brightness numbers changed in 1.7. The 1.8 update didn’t change the brightness numbers at all.
In the V1.7 test that you did, you released three new scenes to check the HDR brightness, but still the peak brightness and sustained modes did not change and can still be seen. In the V1.8 test, it was the modification of the color gamut and color valume and had nothing to do with the brightness. But after updating the X90k TV to the last tests, the peak brightness and sustained mode in different windows decreased a lot…for example In some windows, it was higher than 800 nits, but now it doesn’t reach this value in any window… that’s why I asked if you did a new test or not.
Yeah, I see u’re point..that confused me too.
Hi Dylan, I think you guys need to address this because this is not in line with the test bench changelog, where the test bench 1.7 meant to address improve measurements on brightness yet the brightness score didn’t change from previous one, but on the test bench 1.8 where it meant to address improve measurements on color coverage but ii changes the brightness score to
Hi Felis,
To answer your question, yes panel variance could technically impact brightness as well. You could get 10 of the same TV and all 10 units would likely have at least slight variances in certain areas like uniformity, and even brightness in some cases. However, it also might be worth mentioning that sometimes reviews received sample units from manufacturers that may also perform differently, which is why we make sure to buy all of our own products. All that being said, if you end up trying out the X90K, we’d love to hear your thoughts!
Thanks Dylan you guys are awesome.. I will share my experience when I have it
We’ve tried to update our comparison and side by side to reflect the new information, which you can see here. If you still feel like something is off, please don’t hesitate to follow up!
Hi Dylan, thanks for reply, there is still something that confuses me, namely by looking at the score it means that the x90K is dimmer than the X90J even compared to the x85 series which is classly below the x90 series.
I haven’t made a buying decision yet, but I want to avoid getting caught in the numbers
all in all i really appreciate what the rting team is doing, you guys put a lot effort on this to help us making purchase decision, although i think i need other input to make strong purchase decision
Yes, I think I agree with you, although I don’t own the X90K at the moment.
The test scores are meant to make buying decisions easier, but I think we should be careful not to get caught up in the numbers, it would be better if we consider the opinions of those who have experienced it. I did a simple comparison on bestbuy between hisense u8g (best mid range tv from rtings) - sony X90J (popular Sony mid range tv 2021) - sony X90K ( tv with lots of questions 2022)
u8g out of a total of 797 reviews gets 5 stars by 571 (71%)
X90J from a total of 3644 reviews gets 5 stars by 3004 (82%)
X90K from a total of 157 reviews gets 5 stars by 137 (87%)
I know it’s too early to use this method to judge the X90K because it hasn’t been a year yet
but at least we can get a little picture so we don’t get caught up in the numbers
Assuming we’re on the same page, the difference in score seems related to the new weighting of the score for ultra small bright highlights (arguable when brightness matters most in HDR) and the size of that window. So, simply put. it seems like the new brightness scoring does not work in its favor here, especially for the hallway and cityscape scenes. We did double check the numbers though, and everything appears to be accurate and representative of the experience we expect users to have. Sorry for any confusion this may have caused though. And we also appreciate you bringing this to our attention. Our display team will continue looking into this situation and if we come across any issues on our end, we’ll make sure to update the review!
Sorry for jump in, but please make sure to double-check, as this contradicts what you stated in your previous comment elsewhere
You stated that: “the new model is definitely brighter, so if you’re looking for a punchy image in a bright room you’ll definitely be happier with the new one”
Your statement above does not match with the resulting value
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I see, very appreciate for for the explanation..thanks
I see, For low quality content smoothing on Sony tv , I used smooth gradation.. How about nosie reduction? Is it necessary I used noise reduction / digital noise reduction setting for low quality content smoothing?
Hi, thanks for update of tes bench 1.11, I think it’s great, and the score is better for matching the real experience., You guys really doing a great job ..thanks for the hard work..
I see, thanks for confirming
I don’t see any updates on the main page regarding your update to the 1.11 test bench you mentioned above?
Thanks, I really appreciate all your hard work
Hi Dylan, thanks for reply, I will wait you’re further explanation about this, cause right now I’m 100% sure there’s no way q60b is better than X90K and that’s mean that rating result is no use at least for me to make buying decision
Hey, just sharing Information, all the other reviewers from both website and YouTube mention that the brightness on X90K is a step up from X90J..so I don’t think it’s an issue in terms of brightness..
Thanks for reply Dylan, can rtings check out the Dolby vision issue between Sony tv and Samsung soundbar, cause some people experience that with Sony tv on the Dolby vision content the sound on Samsung soundbar don’t exist , thanks again
I think it’s a QC issue, it’s common for Budget brands at least for now, exp: Hisense has motion issues tested by rtings, personally I think rtings does a good job of giving us advice on what tv is best suited, but I did some additional searching on the best buy site, how the real experience of the tv owner is, i focus on 5 star rating and with that statistic with the same level of tv specs the result is budget brand never beat the big brand on cust experience rated
I see., So it’s a personal reference yeah..no exact sciences..Thanks Dylan
Thanks Dylan, I know OLED definitely better on picture quality, but my environment is a bright room, I guess X90K is more suitable for me as it’s a great tv overall, plus I get 10 inch more for more immersive experience..
Hi Adam, thanks for confirming,.it’s clear now..🙏
Yeah, I see u’re point..that confused me too. Hi Dylan, I think you guys need to address this because this is not in line with the test bench changelog, where the test bench 1.7 meant to address improve measurements on brightness yet the brightness score didn’t change from previous one, but on the test bench 1.8 where it meant to address improve measurements on color coverage but ii changes the brightness score to
Thanks Dylan you guys are awesome.. I will share my experience when I have it
Hi Dylan, thanks for reply, there is still something that confuses me, namely by looking at the score it means that the x90K is dimmer than the X90J even compared to the x85 series which is classly below the x90 series. I haven’t made a buying decision yet, but I want to avoid getting caught in the numbers all in all i really appreciate what the rting team is doing, you guys put a lot effort on this to help us making purchase decision, although i think i need other input to make strong purchase decision
Yes, I think I agree with you, although I don’t own the X90K at the moment. The test scores are meant to make buying decisions easier, but I think we should be careful not to get caught up in the numbers, it would be better if we consider the opinions of those who have experienced it. I did a simple comparison on bestbuy between hisense u8g (best mid range tv from rtings) - sony X90J (popular Sony mid range tv 2021) - sony X90K ( tv with lots of questions 2022) u8g out of a total of 797 reviews gets 5 stars by 571 (71%) X90J from a total of 3644 reviews gets 5 stars by 3004 (82%) X90K from a total of 157 reviews gets 5 stars by 137 (87%) I know it’s too early to use this method to judge the X90K because it hasn’t been a year yet but at least we can get a little picture so we don’t get caught up in the numbers
Sorry for jump in, but please make sure to double-check, as this contradicts what you stated in your previous comment elsewhere You stated that: “the new model is definitely brighter, so if you’re looking for a punchy image in a bright room you’ll definitely be happier with the new one” Your statement above does not match with the resulting value