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Could you update this review to Test Bench 1.3 as well?

Apr 23, 2022 05:51 PM By Haimura

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Thank you for your answer and I admit that the Ducky One 2 Tuxedo that I have in Mx Speed is not super bad but it is not “good” either. It’s average but I don’t know why (maybe the Ducky quality or the fact that it’s a little low profile) but I have the impression that the speeds are not as smooth as on the old Corsairs. or the repetition was effortless, I have the impression that when I spam I get tired with the Ducky and that it is generally slow…too weird, after that it is no worse than my Glorious gmmk 60% which him is really horrible with Everglide Pink switches ( 20ms~ ) But on my old Corsairs I didn’t have this problem of fatigue on the switches, after ok there is a wrist rest but hey… I don’t know, I really have a feeling that it doesn’t really respond instantly on the Ducky One 2 TKL Tuxedo that I have, if you manage to spam correctly without fatigue and in a smooth way, you must be the world champion of Osu, because me as for my best friend, we clearly do not manage to spam in a comfortable way compared to Corsair and I’m not just talking about latency. The Corsair K70 RGB PRO in Mx Speed is FINALLY in stock in France where I am, I took one to try, we’ll see what it gives in a few days and if you want I’ll come back :D

Hope you have great experience with K70 PRO!

Here is what I have thought about playing rhythm games comfortably and longer. Sorry for being off-topic of K70 PRO.

1. Use lower travel distance switches Lower actuation point and bottom out travel mean lower energy to press the keys. MX Silver, OPX, and other speed switches meet this requirement. You can also check low profile switches too, but too much low distance may lead to not very pleasant typing experience. Using O-rings and lower keycap profiles like DSA also affect the distance and feel.

2. Spread both arms wide as your shoulder width as possible, and don’t ever tilt your wrists left or right. One of the reasons why I only use full size keyboards for rhythm gaming. My 10-key binding is CapsLock/Q/W/E/SpaceBar/→/Num7/Num8/Num9/Num+. (Diminished for 9K, 8K 7K, and so on) Good posture is important for being less tired and not straining wrists. Split keyboards will be a better option, but they aren’t for gaming. :P

3. Monitor and desk height Again the good posture. For your neck, back and chest, adjust your chair and monitor position. When you sit on a chair and watch the front, seeing a URL address bar of full screen window of a Internet browser on your monitor is good. Place your lower arms on a desk being 90 degree angle or more to the upper arms. A Palm rest or wrist rest can be used here, or you can roll some sheets of towels to support your arms and wrists.

4. Enhance your hands muscles and flexibility. Using hand grips or rubber balls to grip down for 10 seconds and stretch up your palm for 10 seconds frequently. It helps you not get tired easily when playing rhythm games and probably long time typing too.

5. Rest often This is actually the most important but hard to achieve if you don’t have enough free time. If you find your eyes tired and play worse than usual, it is always better to get more sleep and try it later after refreshing.

Hi,

I’ve been digging for a good rhythm game keyboard for about two years, also have been looking up RG Board List mentioned above. I have tried over 50 different keyboards I have collected both for typing and gaming. Chord splitting is detectable on few boards.

After spending time and money, I concluded that Corsair’s new products that utilize 8,000Hz scanning and polling are the best. Ducky One 2 is the one I have used more than a year, and it doesn’t have chord splitting either, and also its latency meets 1ms standard for rhythm gaming. But, Corsair K70 PRO’s are even better than them. It is hard to figure out the difference between them by the input poling tester https://github.com/ad8e/input-polling-test but playing 7K 6~7 star difficulty make significant difference on 300 accuracy score numbers. Even on easier difficulty, better accuracy makes better scores.

The few boards with chord spltting I mentioned include Razer(2018 version), Vortex, Deck, and Skydigital from my experience. But they may also vary between their product lineups. Please note that an old Corsair K70 LUX I own has chord splitting on over 8-key input. Less than that, it’s fine. I’m thinking to get recent products from Razer of 8,000Hz technology, so I can compare it to Corsair K70 PRO.

If you get a recent product from a well known gaming gear company like Corsair, Razer, or Logitech, chord splitting will be hard to find IMO.

Apr 16, 2022 11:11 AM By Haimura

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Hi, I currently have a Ducky One 2 TKL TUXEDO keyboard and apparently according to Rtings it would have the same “board” as the Ducky One 2 TKL RGB at 7.7ms except when I play Osu it’s impossible for me to be reactive and to hit it super fast, especially since I feel a kind of fatigue and the feeling on my old K70 Rapidfire was clearly better! I was doing a lot more “300” on Osu and now I’m doing a lot of “100” on easy targets, yet I play with the same setup! clearly I have the impression that the Ducky Tuxedo is at 15ms… I intend to try the K70 RGB PRO again for this because the high latency bothers me a lot! and I also have a GMMK COMPACT 60% which has the same board as the GMMK Full and Rtings have put it at 20ms which is terrible…abominable! and it feels not great, especially during fast movements in Apex Legends where I literally feel like a super slow otter xD On my old K70 Rapidfire, I had the impression of moving instantly, it’s very weird. So since no brand has decided to have good typing comfort like ducky and good latency like corsair, I’m forced to take a Corsair, do you have the same opinion on the Ducky? The worst I had was the Mecha mini which is 30ms from what I remember.

Hi Horopushikon,

tl;dr Don’t get stressed for the latency results by rtings.com. K70 PRO is inarguable the best rhythm game keyboard I have ever had.

I have a Ducky One 2 TUXEDO MX Silver that I have used it over a year to play DJMAX and Osu. It is not a bad one, but yes, Corsair keyboards clearly have better latency over Ducky. For typing, I made my mind to have different keyboards with something very tactile like MX Clear switches. I like my MX Silver gaming keyboards for typing too, but it’s little too sensitive.

About the latency result of 3.8 ms on this website, it doesn’t much reflect the rhythm gaming experience. The staff also replied “We consider anything lower than 4ms good.” so most of <4ms keyboards in here will be good for rhythm gaming IMO.

After the question I asked up there, I’ve got EVGA Z15 and Corsair K100 OPX. Z15 is also not a bad one, and the latency is about between K70 LUX and K70 PRO, but Z15 (or at least mine) has a serious flaw that its input sometimes discontinues by itself, resulting miss or break when holding long notes in games. And Corsair K100 OPX has exactly same performance as K70 PRO. But I don’t like OPX switches over MX Silver because OPX doesn’t have cushion feel of spring winded up inside the switches, making my muscles tense very easily.

About Tournament Mode I asked, the staff was right. I bought another K70 PRO for backup, and Tournament Mode on/off doesn’t make difference on Osu scores. Please beware that the first K70 PRO I own has some coil whine from RGB LEDs, volume wheel malfuction, and W key chattering. I’m planning to RMA it to exchange it for a new one, hopefully. I’m little worried about Corsair’s quality being questionable between the two same products, but their performance is both same and fantastic on rhythm gaming.

After using K70 RGB CHAMPION TKL, K70 RGB PRO, and K100 OPX that all utilize AXON 8,000Hz scanning and polling, I concluded all of the new products from Corsair have same performance. (by release date, K100, K65 MINI, K70 RGB TKL, K70 PRO, K70 TKL OPX. as far as I know) Yes, a keyboard with more keys might take more time on scanning, but I think the difference is negligible even for hardcore rhythm gamers.

Thank you very much for sorting out! It helps my plan to buy another keyboard for competitive gaming.