You’re comparing scores between products that aren’t on the same methodology, which you can’t do. With test bench 2.0 we’ve completely reworked our scoring, making it impossible to directly compare the scores with products that haven’t been updated. The test results are still comparable, and the BRAVIA 7 will eventually be updated to 2.0, making it possible to directly compare the scores again. You can read more about the changes we’ve made in our TV 2.0 changelog.
Yes, that’s the correct comparison for HDR Brightness in Game mode.
I see it now, thank you. I thought they were both on 2.0 but I just didn’t read far enough.
Also thank you for confirming I’m comparing the right numbers. I’ve been waffling between returning my QN90D for a Bravia 7 because I originally thought the HDR Gaming brightness was so much better but it doesn’t sound like it is. For now I’ll take the better reflections and viewing angle since my wife likes to watch me game at off angles in a room with some bright lights behind us.
I have a couple questions
1) You rate the Sony as 9.2 and the Samsung as an 8.5 for input lag. But if I look at the individual scores the Samsung beats the Sony on everything? What am I missing here?
2) The HDR Gaming brightness for the Samsung lists a few different variations, with the last being below with Game HDR Advanced turned on
Hallway 748
Skyscraper 749
Pool 332
Am I correct to compare this to the following values for the Sony, as long as I have the Game HDR Advanced on for the Samsung?
Hallway 848
Skyscraper 576
Landscape 309
If so, they seem very similar, is that correct?
You’re comparing scores between products that aren’t on the same methodology, which you can’t do. With test bench 2.0 we’ve completely reworked our scoring, making it impossible to directly compare the scores with products that haven’t been updated. The test results are still comparable, and the BRAVIA 7 will eventually be updated to 2.0, making it possible to directly compare the scores again. You can read more about the changes we’ve made in our TV 2.0 changelog.
Yes, that’s the correct comparison for HDR Brightness in Game mode.
1) You rate the Sony as 9.2 and the Samsung as an 8.5 for input lag. But if I look at the individual scores the Samsung beats the Sony on everything? What am I missing here?
2) The HDR Gaming brightness for the Samsung lists a few different variations, with the last being below with Game HDR Advanced turned on
Hallway 748
Skyscraper 749
Pool 332
Am I correct to compare this to the following values for the Sony, as long as I have the Game HDR Advanced on for the Samsung?
I’m curious as to why the qn90d gets a much higher score for tv watching when the bravia 7 is so much better at upscaling.
You have to understand that Rtings puts way too much weight on viewing angle and reflections, 40%, Again, 40% !!!!! All designed to give Oleds, mainly LG and Samsung, the highest scores. Most Bravia 7 video reviews show the B7 off angle to be very good. Especially in HDR. Of course they were tested to around 70 degrees. The QN90D washed out the same exact way at 70-80, exactly the same. And the same as most other LEDs in BB. I went with a group of 5 to BB, we looked over both TV’s and off angle was good on both, definitely not worthy of the 5 and 6 scores give by Rtings. And yes, on most forums, they call Rtings out for this frequently and tell all to not take any overall score seriously, and to let your eyes make the decision, not their numbers. I do like the ratings, and individual scores mostly, all except viewing angle and reflections. For example, Rtings give the B9 a decent viewing angle score, but many returned it due to the rainbow smear across the entire screen. The B7 wins all day long against the QN90D. Disregard the TV Show and Sports overall numbers as they are simply dropped by Rtings putting 40% weight on the 2 items. They know this will knock Sony and LED’s down. They should put much more weight on upscaling a smoothing, where all would drop and Sony would rise. But Rtings does not wan this to happen, so they do not. So, I like Rtings, just not their weighting and overall scores for some TV’s, almost always, Sony.
I’m curious as to why the qn90d gets a much higher score for tv watching when the bravia 7 is so much better at upscaling.
Hey there. Our ‘TV Shows’ score is based on numerous different test results like SDR brightness, reflections, viewing angle, upscaling, etc. The Bravia 7’s score in that category is brought down quite a bit by its reflections score. You can actually see the breakdown and weighting of the scores by hovering your cursor on the question mark next to the usage box title. Thanks for reaching out and I hope that helps!
I see it now, thank you. I thought they were both on 2.0 but I just didn’t read far enough.
Also thank you for confirming I’m comparing the right numbers. I’ve been waffling between returning my QN90D for a Bravia 7 because I originally thought the HDR Gaming brightness was so much better but it doesn’t sound like it is. For now I’ll take the better reflections and viewing angle since my wife likes to watch me game at off angles in a room with some bright lights behind us.
You’re comparing scores between products that aren’t on the same methodology, which you can’t do. With test bench 2.0 we’ve completely reworked our scoring, making it impossible to directly compare the scores with products that haven’t been updated. The test results are still comparable, and the BRAVIA 7 will eventually be updated to 2.0, making it possible to directly compare the scores again. You can read more about the changes we’ve made in our TV 2.0 changelog.
Yes, that’s the correct comparison for HDR Brightness in Game mode.
I have a couple questions
1) You rate the Sony as 9.2 and the Samsung as an 8.5 for input lag. But if I look at the individual scores the Samsung beats the Sony on everything? What am I missing here?
2) The HDR Gaming brightness for the Samsung lists a few different variations, with the last being below with Game HDR Advanced turned on
Hallway 748 Skyscraper 749 Pool 332
Am I correct to compare this to the following values for the Sony, as long as I have the Game HDR Advanced on for the Samsung?
Hallway 848 Skyscraper 576 Landscape 309
If so, they seem very similar, is that correct?
You have to understand that Rtings puts way too much weight on viewing angle and reflections, 40%, Again, 40% !!!!! All designed to give Oleds, mainly LG and Samsung, the highest scores. Most Bravia 7 video reviews show the B7 off angle to be very good. Especially in HDR. Of course they were tested to around 70 degrees. The QN90D washed out the same exact way at 70-80, exactly the same. And the same as most other LEDs in BB. I went with a group of 5 to BB, we looked over both TV’s and off angle was good on both, definitely not worthy of the 5 and 6 scores give by Rtings. And yes, on most forums, they call Rtings out for this frequently and tell all to not take any overall score seriously, and to let your eyes make the decision, not their numbers. I do like the ratings, and individual scores mostly, all except viewing angle and reflections. For example, Rtings give the B9 a decent viewing angle score, but many returned it due to the rainbow smear across the entire screen. The B7 wins all day long against the QN90D. Disregard the TV Show and Sports overall numbers as they are simply dropped by Rtings putting 40% weight on the 2 items. They know this will knock Sony and LED’s down. They should put much more weight on upscaling a smoothing, where all would drop and Sony would rise. But Rtings does not wan this to happen, so they do not. So, I like Rtings, just not their weighting and overall scores for some TV’s, almost always, Sony.
Hey there. Our ‘TV Shows’ score is based on numerous different test results like SDR brightness, reflections, viewing angle, upscaling, etc. The Bravia 7’s score in that category is brought down quite a bit by its reflections score. You can actually see the breakdown and weighting of the scores by hovering your cursor on the question mark next to the usage box title. Thanks for reaching out and I hope that helps!
I’m curious as to why the qn90d gets a much higher score for tv watching when the bravia 7 is so much better at upscaling.