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• Posted 2 years ago
Update: Converted to Test Bench 1.11. With this update, we’ve added a new Upscaling: Sharpness Processing test and revamped our Blooming test so the scores and picture better match the real world experience. With this change, it was necessary to remove the Black Crush test. Finally, we’ve updated our usage scores to better align our scores with user expectations.
I think “PC Monitor” part here is heavily misleading. I bought this TV because I was impressed by QN700B as PC Monitor in-person and based on this review I thought it could be only better, but I made huge mistake.
Unlike QN700B, with this TV dithering is still visible(less but still there) when you turn on VRR. Also on top of that, with VRR/GSync you are not getting “444” anymore. There is a weird compression going on with VRR, visible on grey color, text has some weird artifacts, etc.. I hope you’re going to check these things in future.
Also, I’m getting a lot of flickering with VRR, usually during “static scenes” in games, both on higher and lower refresh rates(I’m playing 4k120Hz on RTX4080)
I think “PC Monitor” part here is heavily misleading. I bought this TV because I was impressed by QN700B as PC Monitor in-person and based on this review I thought it could be only better, but I made huge mistake.
Unlike QN700B, with this TV dithering is still visible(less but still there) when you turn on VRR. Also on top of that, with VRR/GSync you are not getting “444” anymore. There is a weird compression going on with VRR, visible on grey color, text has some weird artifacts, etc.. I hope you’re going to check these things in future.
Also, I’m getting a lot of flickering with VRR, usually during “static scenes” in games, both on higher and lower refresh rates(I’m playing 4k120Hz on RTX4080)
Hi PDZ,
Thanks for taking the time to write to us with your feedback!
You’re correct that our current PC Monitor usage score can be misleading. The scoring puts a very high emphasis on response time, input lag, viewing angle and brightness and gives little weight to other factors in comparison. Furthermore, it doesn’t take into account specific bugs as they aren’t necessarily covered by our current tests. The good news is that we’re planning to completely overhaul our usages scores in order to make them more representative of a TV’s performance since many haven’t changed for some time while in the meantime TV tech kept progressing at a rapid pace.
The issues you’ve described seem like they are likely related to the TV’s firmware and I think it would be great for us to run specific checks about VRR-related issues in order to flag them in our reviews at the very least. We’ll investigate this with our QN900B shortly and amend the review with our findings.
Don’t hesitate if you have any other feedback or if you have any suggestions for us!
Regards
In Discussion:
• Posted 1 year ago
Update: We took an additional video showing that the TV flickers when VRR is enabled, especially in dark scenes. We also confirmed that the TV’s reflection layers cause a double image when viewing light text on a dark background at an angle.
Little bit confusing about those white/2point pictures. 3 pictures and i really don’t know what are the factory settings and what settings you ended up with. Are the final settings in the last picture above 20 point. Please help needed.
I’ve just sent a QN900B back because of the light text on dark background issue with the anti-reflective coating. Thank you for investigating this because I couldn’t work out what was going on until I found this paragraph in the review.
For me this makes it unusable as a PC monitor. I normally have dark mode on, so I went back to light mode but it was still super obvious in applications and websites that did not have a light background. Maybe it’d be fine if you’re gaming or have very few instances of light text on dark backgrounds, but if you change your usage pattern in the future you may start wanting a new screen.
Regarding this issue your review says this “It’s not noticeable if you’re sitting directly in front of the TV”. In contrast, I found (at a distance of about 60cm) it is really obvious — I could see two of every letter. It was only ever sharp if I looked at an extreme angle.
In Discussion:
• Posted 1 year ago
Update: The TV’s HDR Native Gradient has been retested with firmware 1304. The scoring is now more in line with other similar TV models. The HDR Native Gradient text box has been updated with the new results.
Update: Converted to Test Bench 1.11. With this update, we’ve added a new Upscaling: Sharpness Processing test and revamped our Blooming test so the scores and picture better match the real world experience. With this change, it was necessary to remove the Black Crush test. Finally, we’ve updated our usage scores to better align our scores with user expectations.
What about the QN900C native contrast ? RGB or BGR subpixel ? Thank you
We haven’t purchased the QN900C yet, so we don’t have any data on it yet. Sorry about that. Feel free to track a potential review here.
Thank you
I think “PC Monitor” part here is heavily misleading. I bought this TV because I was impressed by QN700B as PC Monitor in-person and based on this review I thought it could be only better, but I made huge mistake. Unlike QN700B, with this TV dithering is still visible(less but still there) when you turn on VRR. Also on top of that, with VRR/GSync you are not getting “444” anymore. There is a weird compression going on with VRR, visible on grey color, text has some weird artifacts, etc.. I hope you’re going to check these things in future. Also, I’m getting a lot of flickering with VRR, usually during “static scenes” in games, both on higher and lower refresh rates(I’m playing 4k120Hz on RTX4080)
Hi PDZ,
Thanks for taking the time to write to us with your feedback!
You’re correct that our current PC Monitor usage score can be misleading. The scoring puts a very high emphasis on response time, input lag, viewing angle and brightness and gives little weight to other factors in comparison. Furthermore, it doesn’t take into account specific bugs as they aren’t necessarily covered by our current tests. The good news is that we’re planning to completely overhaul our usages scores in order to make them more representative of a TV’s performance since many haven’t changed for some time while in the meantime TV tech kept progressing at a rapid pace.
The issues you’ve described seem like they are likely related to the TV’s firmware and I think it would be great for us to run specific checks about VRR-related issues in order to flag them in our reviews at the very least. We’ll investigate this with our QN900B shortly and amend the review with our findings.
Don’t hesitate if you have any other feedback or if you have any suggestions for us!
Regards
Update: We took an additional video showing that the TV flickers when VRR is enabled, especially in dark scenes. We also confirmed that the TV’s reflection layers cause a double image when viewing light text on a dark background at an angle.
Little bit confusing about those white/2point pictures. 3 pictures and i really don’t know what are the factory settings and what settings you ended up with. Are the final settings in the last picture above 20 point. Please help needed.
I’ve just sent a QN900B back because of the light text on dark background issue with the anti-reflective coating. Thank you for investigating this because I couldn’t work out what was going on until I found this paragraph in the review.
For me this makes it unusable as a PC monitor. I normally have dark mode on, so I went back to light mode but it was still super obvious in applications and websites that did not have a light background. Maybe it’d be fine if you’re gaming or have very few instances of light text on dark backgrounds, but if you change your usage pattern in the future you may start wanting a new screen.
Regarding this issue your review says this “It’s not noticeable if you’re sitting directly in front of the TV”. In contrast, I found (at a distance of about 60cm) it is really obvious — I could see two of every letter. It was only ever sharp if I looked at an extreme angle.
Update: The TV’s HDR Native Gradient has been retested with firmware 1304. The scoring is now more in line with other similar TV models. The HDR Native Gradient text box has been updated with the new results.