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Sony WF-1000XM4 Truly Wireless: Main Discussion

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    I love the screen itself, but I’m having a terrible experience with pretty much everything else, especially the UI.

    To change something as simple as the brightness it takes around 15 seconds:. Click settings button on remote. Wait ~5 seconds for options to appear. click settings option on screen. Wait ~5 seconds for settings bar to appear. Navigate to “brightness” wait a few seconds. Change brightness. Back out of menus to clear on-screen menus.

    Is there something wrong with my TV? It’s brand new. I’ve had it for a few weeks now and it has not gotten better at all. My 2016 Sony Android TV is WAY faster. This is physically painful to use!

    I also hate just about everything there is to hate about the rest of the built-in OS. I think I’m going to have to buy a separate streaming box which is super frustrating to have to buy a whole other piece of hardware to act as a crutch for my brand new, really expensive (for me) TV’s shortcomings.

    Am I alone in this?

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    I have just seen both 85U8N and 85QN85D in local store. Could compare them to an OLED. After reading the reviews here, I was concerned about off view angle. Grades here are below 6. I can say your grades for this subject are quantitative and not qualitative. Just numbers from sensors used, not what we perceive. Even at angles higher than 45° (50-60) the degradation in color and brightness is literally close to zero. The OLED between them could tell us they have, even with VA panels, no difference up to 60° in a practical human perception. Only very close to the wall it starts to degrade… VERY similar to IPS. I have old Samsungs here that do degrade at 40° already, so I was concerned, but no more. My grade for both TVs on off angle view is 8,5 (not AT ALL below 6). You wrote about angles like 30°. At this angle (I am considering standing in front like 0°) degradation PERCEPTION is literally ZERO. And I am experienced AND picky. I agree 100% with PCMag review: “Off-angle viewing on the U8N is very good, with little to no desaturation, color skewing, or reduction in dynamic range even if viewed from the far sides.” I’m going 85U8N. Main use is PS5, Cable and Netflix. Any surprises using this TV with these? Thank you guys!

    I don’t understand how someone could come to this conclusion. I have a Samsung S90D and an U8 (both 65’‘) in my living room right now and the off-axis viewing was immediately apparent (in bright daylight and in a pitch black room). An unfair comparison for sure against for a way more expensive OLED, but being an OLED, it was a great constant to compare to since I was able to match them pretty closely when viewed head-on.

    Brightness doesn’t get hurt too bad, but color is terribly de-saturated and contrast (mainly black level) is hurt too. Even just standing up and taking two steps left or right and the TV looks awful by comparison. Having an OLED next to it which has virtually no change when moving that small a distance really lets you see how much the image degrades on the Hisense. I did all of this from about 10’ away from the TV

    I know all of this is subjective, but it was a shocking difference. My wife walked in and literally said, “that one looks awful” (pointing at the U8). I had to instruct her to sit down in the middle of the couch and then she was like, “oh wow. much better” - why does it do that? Is there something wrong with it?

    Edited 3 months ago: adding distance from tv and tv size
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