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ASUS ROG Azoth: Main Discussion

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    Have had a Vizio since 2004. Pure LCD with a backlight. The backlight setting is critical since the LCD’s cannot produce sufficient light for even a moderately lit indoor scene in the daytime. I believe when testing the V series, (they have a “vertically aligned array” which gives superior characteristics better than IPS when viewed straight on but lacks accuracy viewed from the side) they chose “calibration dark” in the menu, made adjustments and then measured the outputs but the full array backlight was turned off and remained off. Also expect that the setting “calibration dark” affected motion as well. The TV has 120hz refresh, not 60hz and the motion handling that was reported doesn’t make sense with my experience with these TVs. 120Hz was the “cure” to motion issues over a decade ago and now a new TV with 120Hz refresh has a motion issue? Our 2004 Vizio has 60Hz refresh and it has no problem with motion. So am I to believe that in 16 years, Vizio hasn’t learned a thing and went backwards? The TV specs of Dolby, HDR, HDMI 2.1 all read like a superior, up to date design. The consistent “fair” (yellow “caution” color not green “go” color) final review in every category show that the TV is a rock of consistency and something was affecting the overall rating. A TV stuck in a calibration mode during testing explains the final result and the final result does not jive with the specifications. The TV may have subdued HDR response (that is more realistic and a good thing) but the brightness reading was under the minimum brightness specification of 250cd/m2 for ALL televisions. Looks like they measured the light with a full array backlight turned off. I expect to give the V series a try as a computer monitor. I’m comparing it to 28" to 32" monitors and several cost more but I use the internet a lot and I want screen real estate. Easy enough to increase the size of text. Incidentally, the lack of VRR is meaningless when using a game console that outputs at 120Hz into a TV that refreshes at 120Hz. I think the 2020 V series is superior to the TCL “value” offerings in 2020 for a game console unless you move up to TCL series 5. TCL 2020 Series 4 and 3 have unacceptable lag time when upconverting 1080P to the 4K screen. I considered TCL but Vizio has a better economical solution for use with a game console. The V series lag time of 10.6ms, rated at 9.1 is very low and comparable to Samsung, Sony and LG which rated 9.0 to 9.2 for several $100 more.

    Edited 4 years ago: Correction
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    The V405-H19 supports 120hz but only at 1080p and below in select “PC” resolutions. In 4k it only supports 60hz max refresh rate. For console gaming, the PS4/Pro will only accept 60hz maximum refresh rate because the Playstation doesn’t recognize most “PC” resolution options, the Xbox One/X (assuming it’s the same for the Series X/S) supports 4k60hz, 720p60hz max, but in 1080p accepts 60hz or 120hz, because the Xbox is capable of utilizing some common “PC” only resolutions, which has been common among the Xbox since the first, since it’s technically an “Microsoft Direct X”-Box. 120hz TV’s were never really a thing until recently. The “Motion Rate 120” gimmick that’s been used for marketing since 1080p has been a thing, is still 60hz panel, but those panels utilize Backlight Strobing or Black Frame Insertion to “help” smoother out judder and framerate issues people might experience. I would honestly argue that VRR is more important for gaming, even at 60hz, as long as the frame rate limit is wide enough, than 120hz is for gaming. What good is high refresh rate if you experience screen tearing every couple seconds? It’s a similar argument with FALD backlighting and HDR. What good is HDR if you don’t get the expanded contrast afforded by FALD? Just brightening the whole screen washes out all the color and depth of the image.

    In any case, I think these TV’s aren’t bad, I think they offer a lot for a basic TV and for a decent upgrade from something 27"-32". Honestly, I’ve been rather annoyed at the entire display market all but ignoring the display sizes between 32"-43" that aren’t ultra-wides. Hopefully with OLED’s coming to the 42" and 31" markets, we’ll start to see more serious offerings, at lower prices, with gaming oriented features like VRR and FALD.

    Edited 4 years ago: Clarity
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