"PWM Dimming Frequency" on PC Mode
Hey Rtings, i’m having problems noticing the bad image duplication. You say in your reviews its way less noticable on MOVIE MODE, but no mention of PC Mode (i use PC mode for PC and PS4 Console) and Movie Mode for Native Apps.
QUESTION 1 >>>>>>>>> Can you tell me “PWM Dimming Frequency” also drops to 120Hz in PC Mode (like it does with all other modes, except MOVIE Mode?) - i’m using the Q60A 50", and its driving me crazy sometimes. Thank you.
QUESTION 2 >>>>>>>>> Further more, at what brightness leves (0-50) does it drops to 120Hz in MOVIE and PC mode? —— is it 120Hz in any brightness level on Game Mode, including with Game Motion Plus enable?
QUESTION 3 >>>>>>>>> What about HDR, both in MOVIE and PC mode? Is it the same? Should i drop the brightness to get better Flicker?
The duplication really bothers me, thank you so much.
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so interest
We’ve purchased the product and are waiting for it to arrive in our lab.
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jeah, could be a game changer, cause flickering for all the tested models is too high…
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The 321 is not obtainable. Is the 322 the same monitor as the 321 with only an updated display port? If so it is $350.00 more to go from 1.4-2.1 dp! Thanks in advance
The 321 is not obtainable. Is the 322 the same monitor as the 321 with only an updated display port? If so it is $350.00 more to go from 1.4-2.1 dp! Thanks in advance
ello! Help with personalized buying advice is something our experts offer only via our insider forums. We do have lots of self-service tools and recommendation articles that should be helpful as well though!
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I’m interested to see how it compares to the Aorus fo32u2p, both with DP 2.1 UHBR20 connections. Newegg was selling the Aorus for less than $1k about a month ago.
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I am excited to see another 4K monitor tested. Especially since this should be an iteration to the 321URX which is one of the better OLED monitors with regards to VRR and flicker. I am excited to see if their engineers have learned anything and made some improvements.
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For 2 weeks I login daily looking at updates on this. Im super excited for this because I need a comparison vs the only other dp 2.1 4k monitor the gigabyte AORUS FO32U2P. Im hoping with this being an update on the 321 that it’s high qaulity choice for me.
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For 2 weeks I login daily looking at updates on this. Im super excited for this because I need a comparison vs the only other dp 2.1 4k monitor the gigabyte AORUS FO32U2P. Im hoping with this being an update on the 321 that it’s high qaulity choice for me.
Hmmm correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t there also the amazing ASUS PG27UCDM (27" 4K OLED 240Hz) that is also Dp2.1 ?
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Hmmm correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t there also the amazing ASUS PG27UCDM (27" 4K OLED 240Hz) that is also Dp2.1 ?
I haven’t looked at any 27" not interested in that size. Also out of box color accuracy is extremely important to me and asus has slacked in that area (I create content). The msi 321 has been chosen by many to be the best overall 4k oled monitor currently. Also vrr flickering is another for msi.
Edited 2 months ago: Added vrr as a point vs other oled The product has arrived in our lab, and our testers will start evaluating it soon.
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Hi RTINGS, I’m interested in the HDR performance of this monitor. The implementation on this monitor is VESA DisplayHDR True Black 400. I would like your testers, as they test, to provide an assessment of the impact, or performance, of the HDR experience, either in objective or subjective terms. I would like to understand how HDR400 coupled with the very high contrast ratio of the OLED panel compares to, say, an IPS panel with HDR600. Typically HDR400 is considered entry level HDR, however does the combination of OLED’s high contrast ratio make it as impactful an experience as the higher level of HDR600 is on an IPS panel? TIA
Our testers have started testing this product; is there anything specific you’re looking to see? Let us know in this thread.
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The 321 is not obtainable. Is the 322 the same monitor as the 321 with only an updated display port? If so it is $350.00 more to go from 1.4-2.1 dp! Thanks in advance
“The Display Guy” on Youtube did a video review with metrics, and yeah, it’s essentially the same with just DP 2.1a. In a 10% window brightness, it went from 478 to 516 nits. Not much improvement. The only cards that take advantage of DP 2.1a are the RTX 5000 series, and good luck even finding stock for the next 4-6+ weeks, and even better luck at an honest MSRP, and not an AIB partner scalping it themselves.
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Rtings, a firmware update just released today that affects how the 322URX and 321URX handles HDR among other things.
Please ensure this is included in the review.
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I’m still looking forwards to any observations on the HDR experience you can share. My question: how does HDR400 (true black) on OLED compare to a higher level of HDR, say HDR600, on non-OLED?
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Jake i believe in you, I know can wrap up testing today! Rtings.com get this man all the energy drinks he needs.
Early access to our full test results is now available for Insiders! Become an insider to check it out here.
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Is this going to be tested with a native DP 2.1 GPU as well? That’s the whole point of this new product.
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Worse input lag, worse VRR flicker, slightly lower brightness than the 321URX. Some of that is panel variance for sure, and you do get better clarity and user experience with DP 2.1 native but this is disappointing.
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Worse input lag, worse VRR flicker, slightly lower brightness than the 321URX. Some of that is panel variance for sure, and you do get better clarity and user experience with DP 2.1 native but this is disappointing.
I completely agree. I was going to buy this but not for a worse product and at its price
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Worse input lag, worse VRR flicker, slightly lower brightness than the 321URX. Some of that is panel variance for sure, and you do get better clarity and user experience with DP 2.1 native but this is disappointing.
Surely that is just a case of panel variance. From MSI’s advertising, the 322 URX appears to be identical to the 321 URX, but with support for DP 2.1 and USB 3.0 ports
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Surely that is just a case of panel variance. From MSI’s advertising, the 322 URX appears to be identical to the 321 URX, but with support for DP 2.1 and USB 3.0 ports
Both of the DP 2.1 and USB changes are to support different/newer ways to get the graphics output to the monitor for display. I assume this means different controllers and therefore somewhat different engineering so, it seems possible that there would be significant changes to performance. I was hoping for an improvement, especially since it’s an iteration on a design, but that is not a guarantee.
The full review has been posted here. Let us know what you think!
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Thanks for the very comprehensive review, Rtings is doing great as always! I read through and compared the MPG 321URX review and found that some indicators are higher and some are lower, such as the VRR flickering issue. I want to know if this is just a difference between some commercial products or if this is a regression? After all, the Samsung panels used in both products should be exactly the same. Thanks again!
Update: Corrected text to note that Input Lag is slightly reduced at lower refresh rates when DSC is off.
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The 3rd generation had a problem with stripes on dark tones when rotating the camera. And also with stripes on dark tones at 60Hz. Is this fixed in the new monitors?
Update: Converted to Test Bench 2.0.1.
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The 3rd generation had a problem with stripes on dark tones when rotating the camera. And also with stripes on dark tones at 60Hz. Is this fixed in the new monitors?
Hi, though we don’t test for those things specifically, we didn’t notice a difference with stripes on dark tones between this monitor and the 321URX.
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Thanks for the very comprehensive review, Rtings is doing great as always! I read through and compared the MPG 321URX review and found that some indicators are higher and some are lower, such as the VRR flickering issue. I want to know if this is just a difference between some commercial products or if this is a regression? After all, the Samsung panels used in both products should be exactly the same. Thanks again!
Hi, for most tests, such as HDR brightness, we expect that any significant differences in performance are primarily due to differences between the two models, rather than variation between units. Keep in mind that firmware updates can change a monitor’s performance, and the results are from the firmware we tested the monitor on.
That said, there’s a bit more variability in our VRR test. As a result, the difference in score between the two doesn’t necessarily mean there will be a clear difference in VRR performance between the 321URX and the 322URX in everyday use, and it may not indicate a functional regression.
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What specifications of usbc cable should be used for mac to turn on 4k240hz? Tb4?
Can a usbc to dp cable that supports 4k240 also enable 4k240hz resolution normally?
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What specifications of usbc cable should be used for mac to turn on 4k240hz? Tb4? Can a usbc to dp cable that supports 4k240 also enable 4k240hz resolution normally?
Hi, if you’re using a USB-C to USB-C cable you’ll want to check that it supports full DisplayPort 1.4 bandwidth, also known as HBR3. You’ll want to look for HBR3 support for a USB-C to DisplayPort cable as well. These types of cables will support 4k @ 240Hz in regular use.
If you plan on charging your MacBook from the monitor you’ll also want to ensure the cable is rated to carry as much or more power than the monitor is capable of providing, as well as having the appropriate electrical certifications.
Update: Added that the ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27UCDM is a smaller QD-OLED with better Text Clarity.
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Is the screen as delicate and prone to scratches are people say or is this blown out of proportion?
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Hello Together,sorry for my bad english,longtime ago. i want a27/28 or 32 4k oled monitor. but often 60hz input lag high,why? at this monitor new firmware and inpt lag now smoother? Which monitor is under 10m/s by 60 hz?1 i Hope you understand my question.