LG 27GP850-B/27GP83B-B vs Samsung Odyssey G50A S27AG50

Thank you for contacting us. You are correct the way it was worded could lead to misconceptions. We have corrected the phrasing to be more exact. Nevertheless, the Z9F still deserves to be in that list considering the available TVS. The Z9D has fanatic supporters as it did deliver outstanding HDR performance which, unfortunately, was not matched from its successors. We try to be very objective with all the tests we do to eliminate the human factor so that our readers can use the measurements and decide for themselves. It is, however, true that in real life it is not just numbers that matter, but this is why we analyze performance under each box to capture what numbers can’t say. We welcome all suggestions that can help us improve so please feel free to send us any comments or ideas and we will take them into consideration when we design the next test bench update

You are correct the TCL 6 Series R617 should have been listed in the article. Not as a pick, however, since the Samsung UN75RU8000 is a better gaming option. We included it in the ‘Notable mentions’ section. Thank you for letting us know.

Our recommendation articles take a lot of factors into consideration. In the two articles here and here that we recommend the RU8000, the title reads “Alternative for Gaming”. Also in the 55" article in the notable mentions section we say about Samsung UN55NU8000: ‘Great TV; get this over the RU8000 if you can find it.’, since it is becoming harder to find. Unfortunately, we do not have the capacity to update all recommendations articles immediately so some might take some time before they are updated. Thank you for pointing this out to us, though.

Thank you for contacting us. The RU8000 has lower input lag, faster response time and supports 1440p@ 60Hz. This is why it is better for gaming. It is not better in other uses.

Thank you for contacting us. You are correct. Our recommendations try to help people find the best TV for their needs. Unfortunately, there are market changes that happen faster than we can follow and update our recommendations. The Vizio P Series Quantum has inconsistent availability and this is what we mean when we say that it is ‘hard to find’. Also, the Vizio P Series Quantum is the best model in the Vizio lineup and performance-wise compares more to the premium models of other brands. Price-wise, however, it corresponds more to mid-range. This makes this TV hard to classify properly.
Regarding the TCL S425, you are right, we meant to say that the price is very expensive when compared to the still available S405. We updated the recommendation to make this clear. Thank you for pointing this out. We are working on ways to further improve our recommendations and any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thank you for taking the time to help us

The two TVs have very similar performance. Get the one that is cheaper.

This does not sound like normal behavior. Can you please post a video or send us a video by email TV@rtings.com.

Apr 21, 2019 09:04 PM By Chance

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I have a related question: I am afraid to add even a small amount of additional input lag while gaming and so don’t plan to use the “judder” and “blur” motion interpolation. However, it was unclear to me while reading the review whether the black frame insertion feature also adds input lag. Could I potentially use this feature while gaming or does it add the same sort of lag as the blur and judder reduction options? Thanks a lot!

The BFI feature will not add input lag as the TV does not have to do extra processing just to flicker its backlight. In our measurements, the input lag remained the same. You can use this feature without worrying about input lag.

This seems like ‘tearing’. Can you please send us more information on when this happens (while watching movies, or playing games, etc) and possibly send us some pictures at TV@rtings.com

The TCL R617 can interpolate content up to 60fps. Some people like motion interpolation whereas others don’t. The TV gives you 3 levels of motion interpolation to help you match your preferences. This TV can remove judder from any source so this should not be a worry for you. It is a great TV to pair with your Xbox One.

This is a decent TV for watching sports. It has a little blur trail and very little dirty screen effect and does not have a lot of stutter. From what you are describing this might be a signal issue. It could be the quality or the format of the signal causing this. The fact that your TV is a 4K set has very little to do with your picture quality in this case. Let us know more about your signal source, your receiver, your TV service provider and on which channels you observe this. Also, let us know if the problem persists when watching a good quality YouTube sports video.

Both the Z9F and the A9F are excellent. However, depending on your usage you might find one more suitable than the other. The A9F is an excellent OLED TV with perfect blacks that delivers an outstanding dark room performance and has excellent wide viewing angles., but has the risk of permanent burn-in. The Z9F has a VA panel with no burn-in risk. It can get very bright suitable for any room, but dark room performance is slightly hurt due to X-Wide-Angle technology that improves viewing angles at the expense of contrast ratio. Only you can decide what you care for the most.

Measuring contrast can be tricky. We follow a very specific procedure to get consistent results. You can read about it here, but in short we use the black and white pattern you see in the contrast box and bring the backlight to a level where the white is about 100 nits, then we measure the black and the ratio is the contrast ratio. The PQ should be better than your E series but not by a lot.

If you have a dim room (not dark) you can consider the LG 55SK8000. Blacks in a dark room look more like gray on the LG, and the TV can not get very bright for a bright room. On the upside, it has wide viewing angles and is very responsive for gaming. The Samsung NU8000 is a better TV both for a dark room and for a bright room but it doesn’t have the wide viewing angles found on the LG. Also, some people have found the local dimming bothersome especially if you watch movies with subtitles.

Apr 18, 2019 04:27 AM By OP RyanRoff

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Ah, I see. Thank you very much for letting me know because I was honestly considering buy a colorimeter! I did end up buying the 32UL950 w/ free returns on Ebay so I can at least try it out and see if I like it, and I’m finding HDR content to not look all that much more saturated than my LG27UK650.. I think the DCI-P3% is a lot lower than what was advertised in the unit I have. I had a feeling this would happen since you guys also measured the DCI-P3 being only like 85%, my unit would prob be the same. It’s such a shame, but I do have high hopes for the Philips Momentum 326m6vjrmb, which is gonna be almost half the price of the LG, but offer much of the same specs like HDR600 w/Local Dimming, 98% DCI-P3, and also, 3000:1 Static Contrast! That monitor is gonna be releasing soon in the US I believe for around $675, and I’m really excited to try that one out because I think I’ll like it much more than the LG! I just hope the DCI-P3% is as advertised and I don’t have to worry about checking it via colorimeter. Maybe you guys will do a review on it once it releases?

We have limited resources and can only review the most popular models. We have already purchased the Philips Momentum 436M6 and we expect to review it within the next month. This will give you an idea about Philips monitors. If you wish to suggest a specific monitor you can do it here. If it makes it the top, we will consider buying it.

No, all HDMI ports should have the same input lag. As long as you are on ‘Game’ mode you should have the lowest input lag possible with this TV regardless of port choice.

Our recommendations take into consideration the performance as well as price. So when two TVs have similar performance, we pick the one with the lower price. You are correct, however, this is not as clear as it should be and we will be reviewing it in the near future to see how to improve it.